– EXCLUSIVE –
INTERVIEW WITH DR. JAMES DOBSON
DID DONALD TRUMP RECENTLY ACCEPT CHRIST?
JUNE 29 UPDATE . . .
EXCLUSIVE: Q&A With Pastor Michael Anthony On Trump, Christianity, and Religious Freedom, The Daily Wire, released moments ago.
JUNE 27 UPDATE . . .
CNN LIVE: Michael was interviewed about his interview with Dr. James Dobson that went viral. Continue reading this blog for more commentary, and to listen to the actual audio interview that got the conversation started.
June 25 update (Original post below) . . .
It’s been a whirlwind day, with the news in this blog getting picked up by The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, Politico, Charisma, The Blaze and literally dozens of other news outlets. The story was even a trending topic on Facebook – and sparked thousands of tweets. (You can read mine at @Godfactor. Catch me on Facebook at Facebook.com/Godfactor). Additionally, this blog post was viewed over 50,000 times today alone as a result of the report I provided within. Clearly, people are interested in this story. But what is the REAL story?
I’m thrilled about how widely the story is being spread – not because I care about clicks on this blog, but because I care about the message of this blog. And that message is this: Regardless of what somebody thinks about Donald Trump and whether he did or didn’t surrender his life to Christ, salvation is real and available to all. What excites me isn’t the political discussion, but the spiritual one — all across the country, people are talking about how Jesus saves. And Christians, I hope, are praying and repenting – as I urge at the end of this piece – not just for Trump but also for our nation. My prayer is that we would, as a church, embrace repentance and welcome revival to our land. Because it is urgently needed. (This is a key reason why the upcoming October 30 – November 6 National Week of Repentance is so vital, and why that is so heavily on my heart. Visit RevivalMatters.com to participate and spread the word).
If you have a moment, help keep the conversation going and share this blog – or one of the stories linked to above. Let’s flood the web and social media with the truth that all of us — from presidential candidates to ourselves – need not only to accept Jesus, but to worship and follow Him. If, after all the debate, we miss this important truth, we will have missed THE REAL STORY. That, would be tragic.
And, no, this is not an endorsement of Donald Trump or any political candidate. It is to bring the Bible to bear on a relevant topic for everyone, so we can all THINK, PRAY and live for Christ in a day when doing so is very much out of fashion . . .
HERE IS THE ORIGINAL JUNE 24 POST AND INTERVIEW THAT’S GONE VIRAL . . .
I WAS AT TUESDAY’S HISTORIC “CONVERSATION WITH DONALD TRUMP AND BEN CARSON” at the Marriott Marquis on Broadway. About 1,000 evangelical leaders attended this historic event. While there, I met Dr. James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family and Family Talk. I asked Dr. Dobson his views on the meeting and he shared some things that will not only blow your mind, but should also have you on your knees, praying for Mr. Trump and our country with a fresh perspective. Click here or below to listen to this “you heard it here first” interview.
MY THOUGHTS, WITH A CHALLENGE TO ALL CHRISTIANS, ARE BELOW . . .
I was also interviewed along by the American Family Association, here. My comments come at the end. Here it is:
And, Cortney O’Brien from Townhall.com interviewed me on my thoughts. You can read the interview here.
Here are my thoughts – whether Trump did or did not accept Christ – and what YOU should consider and do no matter what:
I remember when I accepted Christ, it took me two years to begin to understand what God did in me. Two years. My walk with Christ was more akin to a crock pot than a microwave. It is for many Christians. And then, even when we think we are walking with Christ we have blindsides. I think anyone who doesn’t realize this doesn’t really understand the depth of our sinfulness.
In regard to Trump, I think – if he really accepted Christ – that it is important to understand 1 Timothy 1:12-16:
“I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me trustworthy, appointing me to his service. Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.”
Saul wasn’t at all like Christ when he began his journey. He spent 14 years in Arabia, so that God could get a hold of him before he began ministering as “Paul.” See Galatians 1. Often, we expect instantaneous change – complete and absolute change – in a person. When, in reality, God’s work is often gradual. It is often dramatic in some areas, and subtle in others. If Trump really gave his life to Christ, it is already changing – in ways that neither you nor I can see, but God sees. And, people closest to him, will see. It can take a long time to see a dramatic change in someone who has so dramatically missed it. But, in the end, haven’t we all, if we are really honest?
Check out Acts 9:26-27:
“When he came to Jerusalem, he was trying to associate with the disciples; but they were all afraid of him, not believing that he was a disciple. But Barnabas took hold of him and brought him to the apostles and described to them how he had seen the Lord on the road, and that He had talked to him, and how at Damascus he had spoken out boldly in the name of Jesus.”
If God gets a hold of Trump, it won’t be the first time people didn’t believe it. It won’t be the first time that a terrible person who lived completely against Christ, came to know him. Saul, who became Paul, is a great example. I’m not saying Trump is a real believer. I don’t know. But if he is, there will eventually be fruit. In the meantime, it’s not surprising to see people be skeptical. They were with Saul/Paul until they could begin to see his change in behavior. If you are a Christian, pray for Trump. See 1 Timothy 2:1-5. It’s not a suggestion. It’s a command to do so for all who really know Christ. In fact, anyone who doesn’t believe they weren’t a terrible person, a sinner, before accepting Christ, doesn’t really understand the Gospel. One sin is all it takes to make one a sinner, in need of forgiveness.
Pray for Trump, whether he really accepted Christ or not. He needs it. Let’s not make excuses for him, but let’s also not belittle what God can do through a man.
America needs a bath. This is why the October 30 – November 6 National Week of Repentance is so vital – and YOU need to participate. Every single person on American soil should. True change begins in God’s House, not the White House. participate by signing up now at revivalmatters.com.
GULLIBLE OR BIBLICAL?
Is one gullible to believe God could save and transform Donald Trump? Maybe so. But, then again, God has done so in the past. Maybe, just maybe, believing it’s possible is to believe more in God than in man after all. This is what it means to pray for change, see it happen, and then believe that God could do what man cannot. This is what biblical faith looks like, after all.
Wouldn’t it be classically ironic (and hypocritical) of all of us who say Trump needs to change, if we who prayed for that change wound up not believing when/if God actually answered our prayers?
To those who keep screaming about “tolerance,” and rail against hatred – are you intolerant and hateful? Do you love your enemy, as Jesus commanded? Or, are you selective in who you love, editing the commands of Jesus? Do you love only progressives? Only conservatives? Jesus commands you to love everyone – especially your enemies – if you say you “follow” Him. We are to love our enemies and pray for them.
And when you pray for your enemy do you pray with bitterness and hatred or true concern, compassion and brokenness? The whole idea of praying for an enemy is to pray without enmity. If you pray with enmity for an enemy, you miss the whole point.
Pray for Trump. Regardless of where he stands with God, it’s not stupid to pray for him and believe God can transform him. It’s actually exactly what biblical praying and faith looks like. if you ridicule this practice you don’t understand the Bible in the most basic of ways, and are, in the final analysis, a very poor Christ “follower.”